# Dabl\_ledger\_access\_token

**URL:** <https://forum.canton.network/t/dabl-ledger-access-token/2086>\
**Category:** App Development\
**Tags:** damlhub\
**Created:** [February 13, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/dabl-ledger-access-token/2086 "2021-02-13T06:34:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Albert\_Pul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.canton.network/albert_pul/32/611_2.png) [@Albert\_Pul](https://forum.canton.network/u/Albert_Pul)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/dabl-ledger-access-token/2086/1 "2021-02-13T06:34:17Z")

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Hello all, I hope everyone is doing ok.

I was wondering if there is an endpoint to return the DABL\_LEDGER\_ACCESS\_TOKEN. This token is different from service account tokens as some endpoints return “Failed to authenticate User Grant token” when service account tokens are supplied instead of the DABL\_LEDGER\_ACCESS\_TOKEN.

The DABL\_LEDGER\_ACCESS\_TOKEN is exposed after a manual login happens and obtaining this token without having to manually login broadens things a bit

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**Author:** ![Max\_DeLiso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.canton.network/max_deliso/32/100_2.png) [@Max\_DeLiso](https://forum.canton.network/u/Max_DeLiso)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/dabl-ledger-access-token/2086/2 "2021-02-16T14:55:42Z")

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Hello @Albert_Pul.

As far as supported token distribution methods go, there is the [the profile page](https://console.projectdabl.com/account/profile) which contains a link to download an Account JWT, the [app login flow](https://docs.projectdabl.com/api/iam/#the-login-in-with-dabl-button), and - as you mentioned - [service accounts](https://docs.projectdabl.com/api/iam/#service-accounts).

It’s unclear to me how a token _could_ be granted securely in the absence of some kind of authentication event. I’d really like to hear more about your use case here to better understand your aims!

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Pul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.canton.network/albert_pul/32/611_2.png) [@Albert\_Pul](https://forum.canton.network/u/Albert_Pul)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/dabl-ledger-access-token/2086/3 "2021-02-17T06:09:43Z")

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Can we schedule a call some time this week? I will reach out on slack