# Why Dev Fund proposals fail, measured from the repository **URL:** \ **Category:** SIGs\ **Tags:** daml, daml-sdk, ledger-api, canton\ **Created:** [November 10, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/why-dev-fund-proposals-fail-measured-from-the-repository/9475 "2026-11-10T18:50:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![orumedominic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@orumedominic](https://forum.canton.network/u/orumedominic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/why-dev-fund-proposals-fail-measured-from-the-repository/9475/1 "2026-11-10T18:50:10Z")
**Disclosure first: proposal #860 is** mine, **and no vote has ever been opened on it. Every number below comes from a tool anyone can run.** I went looking for why some proposals sit still and found something more useful than I expected. Seven votes have failed. **Six recorded no vote against at all.** They ran out of their 21 days while the eligible voters did not vote. The threshold is 51% of allowed voters rather than of votes cast, so an absence counts exactly like a no. **Four of those seven were** reopened **within days of expiring.** #813 the same day, #866 and #453 on 9 November, and #577 on 10 November. So a failed vote is a restarted clock, not a verdict, and reading your own failure as a rejection of the work is probably wrong. All seven were opened within ninety seconds of each other on 16 October, so all seven expired on the same day. One batch, not seven decisions. One thing for anyone measuring this themselves: the repository’s labels show **three** failures, not seven. A reopened vote has its label reset too, so the first failure stops being visible. My own tool counted that way and was wrong by four until I checked the vote comments instead. Working, tools, and every figure: > Two things I could not establish and would value an answer on. Is there a published calendar for the voting sittings? And when a vote expires unvoted, what triggers it being reopened? ---
**Author:** ![Jatin\_Pandya\_cf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.canton.network/jatin_pandya_cf/32/7471_2.png) [@Jatin\_Pandya\_cf](https://forum.canton.network/u/Jatin_Pandya_cf)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 9:43am UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/why-dev-fund-proposals-fail-measured-from-the-repository/9475/2 "2026-11-11T09:43:42Z")
A proposal’s progress depends on the champion, and if they have one in the first place. Do you have a champion for your proposal?? If yes then they have to make sure the proposal is under vote. You can learn the proper process at [Canton LocalNet Guide](https://guide.canton.foundation/localnet) ---
**Author:** ![tonozzibeverley953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@tonozzibeverley953](https://forum.canton.network/u/tonozzibeverley953)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2026, 9:24am UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/why-dev-fund-proposals-fail-measured-from-the-repository/9475/3 "2026-11-13T09:24:40Z")
The champion point doesn’t answer the two open questions. #860’s author is asking about the voting operation itself: whether there is a published sitting calendar and what makes an expired unvoted proposal get reopened. If reopening is manual, the useful next step is to name who can request it and whether committee approval is needed; otherwise “find a champion” just restates the opaque step. A general guide link is only helpful if it states those triggers explicitly. ---
**Author:** ![orumedominic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@orumedominic](https://forum.canton.network/u/orumedominic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.canton.network/t/why-dev-fund-proposals-fail-measured-from-the-repository/9475/4 "2026-11-13T18:39:04Z")
Thanks Jatin, and thanks for merging the Hub entries on 8 and 21 September. Direct answer: no. #860 has no champion. I asked @zeroknowledger on 4 November and have not heard back. Your question sent me to count, and the result surprised me. Of the 31 proposals that have ever reached a vote, 24 carry no champion-confirmed label. 51 proposals carry the label and have never had a vote. And #866’s vote closed on 6 November with 0 in favour and 0 against. So absence ends them, not objection. What does a champion do that the label does not record?